And in a list of insane ideas, it definitely deserves the top spot. I assume Grindelwald truly believes Credence to be Aurelius. Furthermore, the name Grindelwald gives Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore. Creedance is being manipulated into fighting Albus. i’m tired of living without no name, without no history. Press J to jump to the feed. Also, if Corvus survived from drowning, the interpretation of the prediction of Tycho Dodonus would be far less convoluted. She’s notoriously bad at math, remember? Or creating more CGI shit like getting a 'magic starfish' out someone else his eye. In any case, do we know what happens when it’s impossible to fulfill an unbreakable vow? Their lifeboat sailed to safety… She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. Demi Schwartz. Welcome to /r/FanTheories! Just tell me my story… then you can end it.” “Credence Barebone. I think she might be Honoria. Spoilers: The surprise in The Crimes of Grindelwald that could break canon (again) November 2, 2018. (1) I suppose that’s true. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the FanTheories community. Also, there is no mention of Dumbledore having a relationship with anyone. TL;DR: Basically Aurelius might be the son of Honoria, Albus Dumbledore's aunt on the father side, which makes him the cousin of Albus Dumbledore. Really, Corvus must be alive because Bellatrix married a Lestrange. She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. Just tell me my story… then you can end it.” “Credence Barebone. WB is pushing it, not JKR. Der junge Zauberer Credence Barebone soll in Wahrheit Aurelius Dumbledore der Bruder der Dumbledore Geschwister sein. Read the Reddit post for more. Credence cannot be the son of Albus Dumbledore. Nearly destroyed by the woman who raided him. She is the women in the ship with the baby Credence/Aurelius. Facebook Twitter Flipboard Reddit Pinterest WhatsApp. Fantastic Beasts aesthetic : Credence / Aurelius Dumbledore “Who i am ? This point is important because the pheonix is, for now, the only (apparent) evidence of Credence=Aurelius Dumbledore. Here I will look at how he (and only he) could’ve discovered this. Also, it's strange that Grindy sent Abernathy. I don’t think Grindelwald made up a whole new person. In fact, when … Notice the Pheonix chick only comes into Creedance’s possession immediately before meeting Grindelwald on the Paris rooftop and at the end of the film the chick only turns into a Pheonix when handled by Grindelwald, who is both gifted in transfiguration and shares a blood bond with Albus Dumbledore. Credence Barebone was born around 1901, allegedly to the Dumbledore family, as Aurelius Dumbledore, according to Gellert Grindelwald.In 1901, Credence was taken by his aunt on a ship heading to America. Honoria was a Britishwitch and the spinster aunt of Albus Dumbledore. He was in Albus's shadow, as his brother was an extraordinarily talented and academic Wizard and even despite his great duelling talent, he was still incomparable to Albus in the field he specialised in. I don’t think Grindelwald made up a whole new person. Regarding the French Ministry, I had the feeling that NewTina's difficulties in approaching the zone of Lestranges' Record were disproportionate to the (seeming) ease Vinda Rosier+Abernathy encountered. Such as showing characters who should not be alive yet. She was once engaged to a wizard who worked in the Improper Use of Magic Office, but broke off her engagement to him, claiming that he had a "hairy heart" (a wizardingexpression for a person who is unfeeling). She has many alternative theories on FB that sometimes give different explanations, so all of them can’t be true, but I admire her thoughtful approach, how much she knows about history and mythology and her ability to link it to FB. I can completely see Credence/Aurelius singing Bohemian Rhapsody. The Avenging will happen once Albus Dumbledore defeats Gellert Grindelwald in 1945! Credence was supposed to be 18, or less. Why bother at all really. If that's the case Jo has to deal with all the fanbase rage. Even if you don't agree (it does seem just a teensy bit out of character for Dumbledore), you have to admit that this is a pretty insane idea. And she didn’t care about his aunt. (That’s why it’s Aurelius Dumbledore, rather than Aurelius <>). By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He was one step ahead of the purebloods who researched Lestranges but didn't realize that Credence wasn't one. Dumbledore… Grindelwald discovered Credence's true identity through his visions and 3 months of research. Aberforth Dumbledore (b. That is why FB3 was such a major dissapointedment. In the final moments of the new film, Grindelwald reveals a crucial secret to Credence: Credence is the long-lost younger brother of Albus Dumbledore himself — and his real name is Aurelius. Der 2te Teil von Fantastic Beasts ist nun endlich in den Kinos angelaufen und das nehme ich zum Anlass mein erstes Video dazu online zu stellen. He gives him a wand, tells him that his brother wants to hurt him and gives him the name "Aurelius Dumbledore." he met the real Corvus, who is Abernathy. Grindelwald had visions about him (so Credence has to be someone important, one way or another). He’s desperate for love.” - Gellert Grindelwald. Press J to jump to the feed. A subreddit to discuss the new installments in the Wizarding World, the Fantastic Beasts series! We don't know if she is the sister of Percival(Albus' father) or Kendra(Albus' mother). Alfonso Gomez-Rejon TL;DR: Basically Aurelius might be the son of Honoria, Albus Dumbledore's aunt on the father side, which makes him the cousin of Albus Dumbledore. He deduced that Credence is Aurelius Dumbledore, a boy that was also on that ship but is now believed to be dead. Spoilers: The surprise in The Crimes of Grindelwald that could break canon (again) November 2, 2018. Perhaps that’s because the Dumbledore name was lost decades/centuries ago by marriage– and now it’s finally being restored! 1)Everyone in the Dumbledore family we know has a name that starts with the letter 'A'. In dem heutigen Fantastic Beasts 2 Video präsentiere ich euch eine Theorie von mir, die sich mit Aurelius Dumbledore wahre Identität beschäftigt. But only Grindelwald somehow realized that the babies had been switched. My personal favorite theory is that he is a Homunculus (theory of S.Sipal on youtube) But I believe Rowling will go for the simplest and most natural explanation. That leaves Credence as possibly a Dumbledore. Curator of the /r/RowlingWritings reddit collection, and the lead of the old jkrowling.com preservation project, as well as an active member of The Harry Potter Lexicon, Science Fiction Stack Exchange, and various reddit communities. It can't be Credence, because technicality he had never been underwater. Dieses Geheimnis offenbart Gellert Grindelwald Credence auf dem Schloss Nurmengard, nachdem sich Barebone dem Schwarzmagier … This theory claims that in that so called “summer” that Grindelwald spent with the Dumbledores, the dark wizard raped the youngest Dumbledore sibling and the product of that crime Aurelius was born. Part 1: Changing Canon or Did Grindelwald plan to kill Irma? Meh. It's a big thing that couldn't be hidden in the (let's say) HP period, but neither in the FB period. Yes, Credence Barebone is actually Aurelius Dumbledore, and we’ve got some theories to make sense of it. He had all the necessary pieces of a puzzle. Honestly, it makes sense, and I feel adds to the overall plot. Also, getting out of the story, I think that the actors who play Abernathy and Corvus IV really resemble one another. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the FantasticBeasts community. I mean, a lot was cut out, and by trying to make JKR's story more simple and straightforward the filmmakers made it less coherent. Grindelwald’s entire character arch has been as a duplicitous liar/manipulater. Exactly, everyone's going for the brother, yet the prophecy never said the Dumbledore had to be a sibling/parent of Albus, they just needed to be a Dumbledore by blood. Even if she has to tweak some canon timelines. They chose 1926 for aesthetic reasons, they made a set and decorations and it was just too late to change time period when they decided to shift the focus to Dumbledore and Grindelwald. 1883/1884) was a half-blood wizard, the second son of Percival and Kendra Dumbledore, younger brother of Albus, and older brother of Ariana. Of course, the bigger mystery is how Aurelius/Credence was born. (1) Visions usually show the future. Kama made a vow to kill the person Lestrange sr. loves best. He’s desperate for love.” But only Grindelwald knew that Credence isn't Corvus. He researched Dumbledores and Lestranges. Gellert Grindelwald's acolytes were a devoted group of followers comprising the inner-circle members of the army gathered by the Dark Wizard Gellert Grindelwald.1 1 History 2 Known members 3 Appearances 4 Notes and references In 1927, they accompanied Grindelwald to Paris to assist with his plans in recruiting Credence Barebone. So that’s what convinced him that Credence is a Dumbledore everyone (if they knew of him at all) thought dead. You are putting 10 times more thought into it then the writers. I think she might be Honoria. Annia Cornificia Faustina Minor was the daughter of the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius and his wife, Faustina the Younger.She was sister to Lucilla and Commodus.. I don't think that Corvus could have actually grown wings, or could he?)) When Commodus succeeded her father as emperor and, sometime between 190 and 192, he ordered the deaths of Cornificia’s husband, her son, her brother-in-law and her sister-in-law’s family. Yet now he seeks the mother who bore him. Or they (always JKR and her staff of dozens of people of international excellence) would've started the whole story some years before 1926, since large time jumps (in order to show 1945) where already planned. Yes, I know what you mean. Fantastic Beasts 3, the upcoming film set in J. K. 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